Well I request "Remote assistance" thru Email from my guru and hand over control and he sorts my probs from his own terminal .
Cant Grace try the same?
refiners fire
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Ta!ta! to Simon ,Angie& everyone else on board .
by mouthy into all of you i want to say thanks for the many hours ,love, fun, & affection i have experienced on this board...simon & ang a special ((hug)) for letting me be here.
to those who have adopted me as a mum, gran, friend thanks for putting up with me & wonderful comments you have made about me...i cannot keep up with the board anymore.
i am having trouble with my computer -which make me frustrated.
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Corrupting The Young (NOT For Sensitive Readers!)
by SYN indestroying a nation
by lynn stuter.
in 1919 the communist strategy for revolution was captured in dusseldorf, germany.
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Yes.
I had a bit of a look at that site, Shes a bit of a nutter, though I dont see that shes a member of the Ku Klux Klan or anything. Just a dumb Christian Patriot Fundie
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Well, we have ozziepost, prisca, hippikon, stephanus, refiners_fire AND....
by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in.
hope simon doesn't view this as a private message -'cause i want all the world to know who the aussie supporters are on this site.. cheeses - in a moment of curiosity
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refiners fire
Steph.
Yeah, it would provide some light amusement I daresay.
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Well, we have ozziepost, prisca, hippikon, stephanus, refiners_fire AND....
by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in.
hope simon doesn't view this as a private message -'cause i want all the world to know who the aussie supporters are on this site.. cheeses - in a moment of curiosity
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Hey Cheese. if you play your cards right Prisca and Sex Kitten will get a double act on for you.
An experience not to be missed. Make sure you BYO whips and chains.
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Steps toward the revealing of "New Light"
by refiners fire inyears before ct russell had to explain any false prophecies, before he had to rationalize.
the great controversy (1888) author, ellen g white.
chapter: what is the sanctuary ?
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refiners fire
Years before CT Russell had to explain any false prophecies, before He had to Rationalize. There was:
“The Great Controversy” (1888) Author, Ellen G White.
Chapter: “What is the Sanctuary ?”
Can anyone doubt the Dubs learnt from their forefathers bitter experiences ?
QUOTE: “The scripture which above all others had been both the foundation and the central pillar of the advent faith was the declaration: "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Daniel 8:14. These had been familiar words to all believers in the Lord's soon coming. By the lips of thousands was this prophecy repeated as the watchword of their faith. All felt that upon the events therein foretold depended their brightest expectations and most cherished hopes. These prophetic days had been shown to terminate in the autumn of 1844. In common with the rest of the Christian world, Adventists then held that the earth, or some portion of it, was the sanctuary. They understood that the cleansing of the sanctuary was the purification of the earth by the fires of the last great day, and that this would take place at the second advent. Hence the conclusion that Christ would return to the earth in 1844. But the appointed time had passed, and the Lord had not appeared. The believers knew that God's word could not fail; their interpretation of the prophecy must be at fault; but where was the mistake? Many rashly cut the knot of difficulty by denying that the 2300 days ended in 1844. No reason could be given for this except that Christ had not come at the time they expected Him. They argued that if the prophetic days had ended in 1844, Christ would then have returned to cleanse the sanctuary by the purification of the earth by fire; and that since He had not come, the days could not have ended”
And so, brothers, they diligently Searched the scriptures. Searching for “new light”
QUOTE: “To accept this conclusion was to renounce the former reckoning of the prophetic periods. The 2300 days had been found to begin when the commandment of Artaxerxes for the restoration and building of Jerusalem went into effect, in the autumn of 457 B.C. Taking this as the starting point, there was perfect harmony in the application of all the events foretold in the explanation of that period in Daniel 9:25-27. Sixty-nine weeks, the first 483 of the 2300 years, were to reach to the Messiah, the Anointed One; and Christ's baptism and anointing by the Holy Spirit, A.D. 27, exactly fulfilled the specification. In the midst of the seventieth week, Messiah was to be cut off. Three and a half years after His baptism, Christ was crucified, in the spring of A.D. 31. The seventy weeks, or 490 years, were to pertain especially to the Jews. At the expiration of this period the nation sealed its rejection of Christ by the persecution of His disciples, and the apostles turned to the Gentiles, A.D. 34. The first 490 years of the 2300 having then ended, 1810 years would remain. From A.D. 34, 1810 years extend to 1844. "Then," said the angel, "shall the sanctuary be cleansed." All the preceding specifications of the prophecy had been unquestionably fulfilled at the time appointed. With this reckoning, all was clear and harmonious, except that it was not seen that any event answering to the cleansing of the sanctuary had taken place in 1844. To deny that the days ended at that time was to involve the whole question in confusion, and to renounce positions which had been established by unmistakable fulfillments of prophecy.”
The SACRED MATHEMATICS couldn’t be in error brothers. 2520 – 607 = 1914!! Who can deny that is true??
QUOTE “The question, What is the sanctuary? is clearly answered in the Scriptures. The term "sanctuary," as used in the Bible, refers, first, to the tabernacle built by Moses, as a pattern of heavenly things; and, secondly, to the "true tabernacle" in heaven, to which the earthly sanctuary pointed. At the death of Christ the typical service ended. The "true tabernacle" in heaven is the sanctuary of the new covenant. And as the prophecy of Daniel 8:14 is fulfilled in this dispensation, the sanctuary to which it refers must be the sanctuary of the new covenant. At the termination of the 2300 days, in 1844, there had been no sanctuary on earth for many centuries. Thus the prophecy, "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed," unquestionably points to the sanctuary in heaven…Thus those who followed in the light of the prophetic word saw that, instead of coming to the earth at the termination of the 2300 days in 1844, Christ then entered the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary to perform the closing work of atonement preparatory to His coming.”
At last, Light! Of course, the “Fair weather” believers will not SEE the newly revealed truth of the INVISIBLE FULFILLMENT. But those with understanding shall see thru the eyes of faith. Lol brothers.
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Periods of 2520 years and 6000 years
by refiners fire ina rather interesting passage from a most historic magazine is reproduced here for your perusal.
its not a watchtower magazine, rather, the magazine is called :
the true midnight cry.
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Mac and JohnnyC.
Well if the "times of the Gentiles" isnt an original idea, and is, in fact, an idea borrowed from Adventism.....
And if the 1918 "resurrection" and the 1919 "Fall of Babylon" are only "proven" by Judge Rutherford being released from jail in 1919.....
And if the 1914 Kingdom is only "proven" by the commencement of WW1 in that year....
Isnt their theology something of a HOUSE OF CARDS ???
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Convention program "Give God Glory"
by johnny_was_good infriday.
you are worthy, jehovah,to receive the glory.
revelation 4:11.
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refiners fire
What a waste of a weekend.
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Ozzie's Thought for the Day
by ozziepost in.
what a man wishes, he generally believes to be true.
(same goes for women too!
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refiners fire
Oz.
Is this a whole new line of threads you are starting? A new tradition?
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Cheeses, my son, step right up and receive your promotion.
by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in250 and climbing.
senior member.
what an honour.
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refiners fire
Sister Pris.
That should be : "What Does Refiner Require of Me"? (lol)
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Thoughts on the "Fall of Babylon"
by refiners fire inmost recently i have been examining such invisibly occurring events as the 1918 resurrection of the saints and this week ive looked into the watchtower claim that babylon the great fell in 1919. there was scant evidence and little biblical support for the wt claim about the resurrection occuring .
in fact, the key line of proof of the resurrection was that rutherford was released from jail in 1919. does the claim of babylons fall in 1919 fare better?
what is the proof offered by the wt that this, in fact, occurred?
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Avengers.
And thats saying nothin about the fact that in the type fulfillment the waters dry up BEFORE Babylon falls, but in the Antitype they dry up AFTER She falls.
Lol brother